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	<title>Comments on: Good news on charter performance</title>
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		<title>By: Eduardo del Solar</title>
		<link>http://www.pioneerinstitute.org/blog/news/good-news-on-charter-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-3560</link>
		<dc:creator>Eduardo del Solar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Ho hum, Eduardo. Forgive me for not taking the attrition criticism seriously.&quot;

If you are wearing your pioneer cap Jim,  your answer makes perfect sense.  However, for the thousands of  parents looking for viable schools for their kids, attrition rates for staff/ students are always a consideration in selecting a school.  This is true for K-12 and at the college level as well.  

Eduardo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ho hum, Eduardo. Forgive me for not taking the attrition criticism seriously.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you are wearing your pioneer cap Jim,  your answer makes perfect sense.  However, for the thousands of  parents looking for viable schools for their kids, attrition rates for staff/ students are always a consideration in selecting a school.  This is true for K-12 and at the college level as well.  </p>
<p>Eduardo</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 08:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ho hum, Eduardo.  Forgive me for not taking the attrition criticism seriously, but just because you repeat something a thousand times does not make it true.  

See my blog here on the attrition accusation (http://www.pioneerinstitute.org/blog/news/contrition-about-attrition). Charter attrition leads to 10 percent dropout rates, below the state average.  Attrition is higher in Boston Public Schools, and they have 35 percent dropout rates.  The MTA should show some contrition for its report on attrition.  

And you might want to try getting your facts straight before pontificating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ho hum, Eduardo.  Forgive me for not taking the attrition criticism seriously, but just because you repeat something a thousand times does not make it true.  </p>
<p>See my blog here on the attrition accusation (<a href="http://www.pioneerinstitute.org/blog/news/contrition-about-attrition)" rel="nofollow">http://www.pioneerinstitute.org/blog/news/contrition-about-attrition)</a>. Charter attrition leads to 10 percent dropout rates, below the state average.  Attrition is higher in Boston Public Schools, and they have 35 percent dropout rates.  The MTA should show some contrition for its report on attrition.  </p>
<p>And you might want to try getting your facts straight before pontificating.</p>
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		<title>By: Eduardo del Solar</title>
		<link>http://www.pioneerinstitute.org/blog/news/good-news-on-charter-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-3531</link>
		<dc:creator>Eduardo del Solar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,

In the Boston Public Schools, Charter schools have the highest attrition rate of all public schools. Charter schools  are basically  drop out factories because they meet  the metric used by Secretary Duncan. A school is labeled a drop out factory when 40% of starting students fail to graduate 4 years later.  Can this possibly be due to innovation and freedom of regulation Jim?

 Would be nice to know what is the attrition rate for Charter schools in the entire state. Are most Charter schools also drop out factories based on this metric?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,</p>
<p>In the Boston Public Schools, Charter schools have the highest attrition rate of all public schools. Charter schools  are basically  drop out factories because they meet  the metric used by Secretary Duncan. A school is labeled a drop out factory when 40% of starting students fail to graduate 4 years later.  Can this possibly be due to innovation and freedom of regulation Jim?</p>
<p> Would be nice to know what is the attrition rate for Charter schools in the entire state. Are most Charter schools also drop out factories based on this metric?</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Stergios</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Stergios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rack - Thanks for your reply.  I am nice guy so I posted your comment, but this is the same comment you always make.

In the future, take a more constructive approach.  For example, in this case you could have looked at the 6th, 8th and 10th grades and give us the 10 lowest growth schools.  

Data does not bite.  And it moves us from a discussion of I think-You think.  I am always happy to learn from people who engage openly on the data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rack &#8211; Thanks for your reply.  I am nice guy so I posted your comment, but this is the same comment you always make.</p>
<p>In the future, take a more constructive approach.  For example, in this case you could have looked at the 6th, 8th and 10th grades and give us the 10 lowest growth schools.  </p>
<p>Data does not bite.  And it moves us from a discussion of I think-You think.  I am always happy to learn from people who engage openly on the data.</p>
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